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CJ1 and WCE

ALL Muslims are not doing the actual killing, their "holy book" supports it, as does those who follow it. There is no believing bits and pieces of the Qu'ran. Muslims believe all of it, they have to.

I am surprised that in one of your post above you say that they(muslims) beleive in parts of Quran and not the whole. Well here WCE quoted parts to descredit Islam and you support it, please read my explanations below

Sura : 9:29 Fight against those who [a] believe not in Allah [b] believe not in the last day [d] and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam)

Explanation

The above verse only applies to the situation at the time of revelation when the muslims (a small number compared to those who were against them )were being religiously persucuted by the ruling authorities of the time and were attacked after they migrated to a city (medina)280 miles away from Mecca in search of peace. The prophet of Islam Mohammad beleived in migration as a resort to avoid persecution, war and killing. At that time when the armies of the persecuters pursued them to crush them, God these verses and other verses to Mohammad to convey to the muslims to fight against the persecuters and their allies. So these verses do not have a general meaning to be applied to every situation. Actually the permission to fight in defence was also revealed by God to Mohammad while he was struggling with himself to avoid physical fight.

Infact Muslims faught bravely and defended themselves(despite being less in number ratio of 1/1000) at that time and the persecutors were obliged to accept a peace treaty offered by Mohammad (as instructed by God) immidiately after the fight.

Chapter 22 verses 39 and 40

39. Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, All�h is Able to give them (believers) victory

40. Those who have been expelled from their homes unjustly only because they said: "Our Lord is Allah." - For had it not been that Allah checks one set of people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, wherein the Name of Allah is mentioned much would surely have been pulled down. Verily, Allah will help those who help His (Cause). Truly, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty.

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Sura :9:73 Strive hard against the non-believers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them.

Explanation: Strive hard here means to preach with zeal and devotion, not necesserily physical fight, unless attacked upon physically.

mostly same as above. This is also the case in which a group of spies from the unbeleivers entered the ranks of muslims and pretended to be muslims. They joined the unbeleivers at the time of physical attack by the unbeleivers on muslims. This group is referred to as hypocrites.

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Sura : 8:39 Fight them (non-believers) until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and polytheism] and the religion will all be for Allah alone. [in the whole world]

The remaining part has been missed here is as follows

But if they cease (thieir mischivious acts against humanity ), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do

Explanation: Fitna just does not simply mean disbeleif and polythesim, but also social vices that create turmoil in a society, such as cheating, lying, injustice, might is right, violations of human rights, rapes, murders and so on all the criminal acts.

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Sura : 2:216 Jihad [holy fighting in Allah's cause] is ordained for you [Muslims] though you dislike it.

The missing part here (by WCE ) is

and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know

Explanation: The word Jihad as translated in the brackets as Holy war is incorrect. Jihad menas struggle and striving for a cause and not holy war. Jihad is written as Jihad in Quran and not arabic words (Harb muqaddas, which means holy war- two words).

Again these verses encourage muslims to word hard, strive for establishing preaching and to strive with themselves (there ownself) to stay away from evil and sinfulful acts. God also tells them this striving and struggle is may feel hard (compared to easy life those who live in sin - lying, cheating, deceiving to make a life) but it is good for them in the long run.

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Sura 9:123 Fight those of the non-believers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you.

Again the part missing here (by WCE) is

and know that Allah is with those who are the the pious

Explanation: again part of chapter 9 was revealed at the time when the muslims were physically attacked to defend themselves in the physical encounter with a assurance from God that He will be with them in this struggle to defend.

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Intolerance Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." (Hadith vol. 9:57)

Explanation: Hadith is not official Islamic text and is a collection of essays written by humans about Mohammad and traditions based on heresay and individual's judgemnt and mental approach to writing the essays. Mostly written 100's of years after Mohammd left this world.

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Bias Mohammed said: "No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel (Hadith vol. 9:50)

Explanation: Same as above.

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War crimes Sura 8:67 "It is not fitting for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Explanation: This verse just does not make sense as is written. The actual wording in arabic is different and makes more sense when the following continuing verses till 70 and 71 are read. This is actully an address to the attackers who were captured after the muslim defence as explained above, in which the attcker prisnors were told that they have an oppritunity to change even though they could have been killed as a part of the fight which they perperated. Here are verses 70 and 71 written and combined to make more sense

O Prophet! Say to the captives that are in your hands: "If Allah knows any good in your hearts, He will give you something better than what has been taken from you, and He will forgive you, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

71. But if they intend to betray you (O Muhammad ), they have already betrayed Allah before. So He gave (you) power over them. And Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise.

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Racism Sura 5:51 "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:

Explanation: Again this verse is only quoted here without any context. this verse refers to the situation where some of the Jews and Christians living in the city of medina at the time of prophet sided with the unbeleivers and persecutors of Mohammad and his followers and participated in the physical attacks on muslims. Some of them acted just as the persecutors. So this was a word of caution from God to muslims to not to trust those jews and Christians of that time who joined the persecutors.

Some more verse folowing this is as follows for the rest of peacful people of other religions who did not side with the persecutors.

69. Surely, those who believe those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians, - whosoever believed in Allah(one God )and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve

— moshawn

true that. but also true to all the hate crimes that are don to innocent white pple,which tally up to be a lot more than done to minorities....hmmm.how about all races leave the past behind and race to supreme intelligence.then when its time to announce the winner well all be too smart to worry about something noone could fix.

— zerach

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